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Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/707
Written by Lee on Sunday, 25th June 2006

Here is a link to a new invention that will allow trams and cars to use the same surface.

Quote from the above link :

"With so many light rail projects under threat, community lines struggling and axed lines lying disused, there is real need for new and affordable options to realise much needed infrastructure opportunities."

Presumably , the struggling community lines reffered to are the similiar to the ones listed below.

Here are some Cornish Branch Line passenger figures since 2001 :

Par - Newquay - up 40%
St Erth - St Ives - up 25%
Liskeard - Looe - up 16%

Here is a Times article on this.,,22749-2203763.html

Quotes from the above link :

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/713
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Monday, 26th June 2006

Lee, one heck of a long article to reply to.

Yes, I note that the holdfast publicity talks about restoring old lines and you point that many have been built on.  You don't mention (I don't think) the current lack of climate for investment ... another reason why lines in this neck of the woods would not be restored for dual use.  Rather, the only lines where such a system might be practical at present are those which have track laid down and are currently in use.

It's not clear to me on train speeds on holdfast, and on how the vehicels would share. Would the trains be limited to (say) 30 m.p.h., or would the road element be shut while a train passed along?  In car vehicle use, would 2 way traffic be possible in the width of a single track railway?  Level crossings cause delays anyhow.  Making in effect several-mile-long level crossings could lead to a system that was impractical unless the train traffic was limited to just a couple of services a day, or the road part was used just for specific time slots (e.g. commuter rush hours) ... yet in that latter case, surely that's when a train would be most useful.

I CAN see the system useful over occasional vey short bridge sections ... how about Culrain to Invershin, 400 yards by rail and 20 miles or so by road.  And the trains there are slow - there are stations at both ends of the bridge.

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/714
Written by Lee on Monday, 26th June 2006

[quote author=Graham Ellis link=topic=267.msg713#msg713 date=1151338681]You don't mention (I don't think) the current lack of climate for investment[/quote]

Good point , Graham. This link should help.

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/743
Written by Lee on Sunday, 2nd July 2006

Here is a link to a recent Parliamentary Written Question.

Mr. Sanders: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport whether he has approved the construction of the A380 Kingsterswell bypass; and what funding has been allocated for the construction of the road. [80165]

Gillian Merron: The Department has not received a proposal for this scheme from Devon county council. We are currently considering the advice from the South West region on the priority it attaches to major transport schemes in the South West, including the Kingskerswell Bypass, within the indicative Regional Funding Allocation (RFA) for the region. We hope to announce our response to the region

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/748
Written by Lee on Monday, 3rd July 2006

Here is an interesting article related to this issue.

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/763
Written by Lee on Tuesday, 4th July 2006

Here is another article related to this.

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/768
Written by Lee on Wednesday, 5th July 2006

Here is a further article related to this.

Re: Rubber Tracks & Sprint - 267/775
Written by Lee on Thursday, 6th July 2006

Here is another article.

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Save the Train was the campaign to bring an approriate train service back to and through Melksham.

Most big contributors are still around writing at the Coffee shop forum where new members are very welcome.

The train has been saved - sort of - we have stepped back up from an unusable service to a poorish one but it's doing very well. We did that through setting up the TransWilts Community Rail Partnership. That fulfilled its early objectives; it has been taken over by local and regional government types who are now doing medium and long term work. The team from this forun can also be found at the Melksham Rail User Group (which was the Melksham Rail Development Group at the time these articles were written and we had no users.

We mustn't loose sight, though, that the train service remains poor and needs our community support in marketing and campaigning to keep it going in a positive direction ... and all the more so when we're expecting to find a different normallity once we get out of the Coronavirus Pandemic and head for zero carbon via the climate crisis. Yes, it's saved ... it's now a key community facility ... the need for enhancement and the strong and near-universal local support remain, and the rail industry and goverment remain slow to move and provide the enhancements even to level us up with other towns. Please support the Melksham Rail User Group - now very much in partnership rather than protest with the rail industry and local government, including GWR, TransWilts and unitary and town councils. And please use the trains and buses, and cycle and walk when you can.

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