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234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/554 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Wednesday, 26th April 2006 Dear Graham, Tony Anthistle has asked me to contact to you regarding you email. I have carried out some investigation into what is happening and why. It appears that the following is the case. Services 232 and 234 were to be re-routed via Chippenham Railway Station as part of the First Great Western franchise bid. First Great Western decided the only the 232 will be re-routed via Chippenham Railway station and not service 234. In order to extend the 234 to the railway station the service will require an additional bus. The raises of cost. The change to Service 232 has been registered to commence on the 28th May 2006. Unfortunately, these journeys are not timed to meet trains at the station. Service 232 will operate hourly. The evening journeys on the Services 234 and 263 are interworked, at this point again there is not enough time in the journeys to extend them to the station. In order to do this we will require an additional vehicle, and once again this raises the question of cost. If you wish I can go through these issues with you in greater detail, and perhaps we can discuss your aspirations for services in this area and we can see whether these can be accommodated. many thanks, Simon Newport Service Delivery Manager, Bristol Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/555 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Wednesday, 26th April 2006 I think this is quite significant - AS PART OF THE GREAT WESTERN FRANCHISE BID, First were going to re-route the 234. The have now STEPPED BACK FROM THAT PROMISE. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/559 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Thursday, 27th April 2006 Comment from Wiltshire County Council on this story: [i]We did not have sight of Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/563 Written by Sion Bretton on Thursday, 27th April 2006 Shame as they want to cut the trains Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/569 Written by Lee on Sunday, 30th April 2006 The added significance of this is not just that the 234 runs between Chippenham - Frome via Melksham , but that the 232 runs between Bath - Chippenham via Corsham , where a new station is proposed. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/570 Written by Sion Bretton on Sunday, 30th April 2006 Do you think they will get a station at Corsham. I worked in corsham 15 years ago and they were trying to reopen the railway station. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/571 Written by Lee on Monday, 1st May 2006 The SRA Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/572 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Tuesday, 2nd May 2006 I'm in correspondence with First Bus at the moment ... I'll fill in here in a couple of days when I get back home (in Glasgow at the moment!) Graham Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/888 Written by Lee on Friday, 14th July 2006 A couple of Parliamentary Written Questions have been asked that are related to this issue (link below.) http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60714w01.htm Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, how many applications (a) to change and (b) to modify bus routes have been made to the traffic commissioners in each area of England in each of the last three years for which figures are available. Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, on how many occasions the traffic commissioners have intervened (a) to prevent and (b) to modify a change to a bus route of which they had been notified in each of the last three years for which figures are available. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/897 Written by Sion Bretton on Sunday, 16th July 2006 Yesturday came back from London with Melksham Busplus ticket, yes train arrived in Chippenham on time, walk to Bus station and the 30 mintute wait for the bus. Would be nice if they came to railway station, there is nice new bus stop (built in last 6 months) and you can get a coffee while you wait 30 mintues for the bus. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/899 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Sunday, 16th July 2006 So let's see, Sion. You arrived at Chippenham at (say) 13:10. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/902 Written by Sion Bretton on Sunday, 16th July 2006 well this is what happen : left London on 15.30 ( I know I could of waited for 16.45 change at Swindon for the Melksham Train} Areive at Chippenham at 16.46 walked to Bus Station (15 minute walk), then go on 17.30 bus arrived in Mleksham at 17.55 and my house 18.05. I know if waited in London until 16.45 train changing at Swindon I should arrive in Melksham at 18.16 and my house at 18.25. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/903 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Sunday, 16th July 2006 Thanks, Sion .. you took 2 hours and 35 minutes (bus from Chippenham) ... train alternative would have taken 1 hour and 40 minutes (i.e. 55 minutes faster), but there wasn't a train at that time. Re: 234 but NOT going to Chippenham station after all ... - 221/932 Written by Lee on Wednesday, 19th July 2006 [quote author=Lee link=topic=221.msg888#msg888 date=1152874342] A couple of Parliamentary Written Questions have been asked that are related to this issue (link below.) http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmordbk1/60714w01.htm Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, how many applications (a) to change and (b) to modify bus routes have been made to the traffic commissioners in each area of England in each of the last three years for which figures are available. Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch):To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, on how many occasions the traffic commissioners have intervened (a) to prevent and (b) to modify a change to a bus route of which they had been notified in each of the last three years for which figures are available. [/quote] Here are the answers (link below.) http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm060718/text/60718w1787.htm Mr. Chope: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport (1) how many applications (a) to change and (b) to modify bus routes have been made to the traffic commissioners in each area of England in each of the last three years for which figures are available; [85372] (2) on how many occasions the traffic commissioners have intervened (a) to prevent and (b) to modify a change to a bus route of which they had been notified in each of the last three years for which figures are available. [85373] Gillian Merron [holding answers 14 July 2006]: The traffic commissioner must accept all properly completed applications to register or vary a local bus service. New registrations can only be refused where the operator concerned has a condition on their licence which prevents them from providing the service as applied for. Information on the number of new and varied local bus service registrations is published in the traffic commissioners annual report. Copies of the publications are available in the House of Commons Library and can also be found on the DFT website at http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_control/documents/contentservertemplate/dft_index.hcst?n=9759&l=3 link to index of articles |
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Save the Train was the campaign to bring an approriate train service back to and through Melksham. Most big contributors are still around writing at the Coffee shop forum where new members are very welcome. The train has been saved - sort of - we have stepped back up from an unusable service to a poorish one but it's doing very well. We did that through setting up the TransWilts Community Rail Partnership. That fulfilled its early objectives; it has been taken over by local and regional government types who are now doing medium and long term work. The team from this forun can also be found at the Melksham Rail User Group (which was the Melksham Rail Development Group at the time these articles were written and we had no users. We mustn't loose sight, though, that the train service remains poor and needs our community support in marketing and campaigning to keep it going in a positive direction ... and all the more so when we're expecting to find a different normallity once we get out of the Coronavirus Pandemic and head for zero carbon via the climate crisis. Yes, it's saved ... it's now a key community facility ... the need for enhancement and the strong and near-universal local support remain, and the rail industry and goverment remain slow to move and provide the enhancements even to level us up with other towns. Please support the Melksham Rail User Group - now very much in partnership rather than protest with the rail industry and local government, including GWR, TransWilts and unitary and town councils. And please use the trains and buses, and cycle and walk when you can. -- Graham Ellis, (webmaster), February 2021 | |||
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