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Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3621
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Wednesday, 31st January 2007

I understand that there are plans in the pipeline to redouble the Thingley to Bradford Junction section, just as Swindon to Kemble, though with single junction leads.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3622
Written by Lee on Wednesday, 31st January 2007

Both the Oxford - Worcester & Stroud Valley plans are at the "first stage" , although WSM - Worle is a definate runner (links below.)
http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1007.msg2806#msg2806

http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=600.msg1796#msg1796

http://www.savethetrain.org.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1093.msg3108#msg3108

While on a "level playing field" , I would love to see the Melksham line doubled , in the current circumstances I would fear that , like (say) Ascott - under - Wychwood , Combe , Finstock & Weston Milton , the cost of providing an extra platform may be questioned.



Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3623
Written by Nick Field on Wednesday, 31st January 2007

Interesting news.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3629
Written by Steve35 on Wednesday, 31st January 2007

And don't forget the cost of a footbridge to the new platform. This could easily cost a million or two as it would need to be wheelchair accessible i.e. ramps as well as steps. You'd be needing something like this: http://jpc.fotopic.net/p26309006.html
Also, is there room to put in an extra track and platform at Melksham without moving the existing platform? If there isn't then you've got even more cost to justify.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3630
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Thursday, 1st February 2007

There probably *is* room, Steve, but the footbridge is a bit of a frightener.  Perhaps this is one of those places where a split platform arrangement would work, with the Swindonbound platform to the South of the road bridge, which would  provide the level access.  Down side of *that* is that you have another site which isn't on the bus route and is in the back of an industrial area.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3655
Written by Nick Field on Friday, 2nd February 2007

The free paper that comes through the door - 'The Wiltshire Advertiser'

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3657
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Friday, 2nd February 2007

[quote author=Nick Field link=topic=1274.msg3655#msg3655 date=1170406828]
The free paper that comes through the door - 'The Wiltshire Advertiser'

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3658
Written by Nick Field on Friday, 2nd February 2007

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A double track rail link would make sense, and I can understand the "single lead" being much cheaper to maintain and sufficient for - perhaps - quite a period.

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Agreed although I do feel a trick would be missed by not at least reinstating the chord allowing trains to run from Melksham to Bradford
Steve35 could you give an idea of what extra capacity the redoubling of the track with single leads would provide and cost savings compared to double leads etc?


Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3680
Written by Graz on Friday, 2nd February 2007

[quote author=Nick Field link=topic=1274.msg3658#msg3658 date=1170407490]
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A double track rail link would make sense, and I can understand the "single lead" being much cheaper to maintain and sufficient for - perhaps - quite a period.

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Agreed although I do feel a trick would be missed by not at least reinstating the chord allowing trains to run from Melksham to Bradford
Steve35 could you give an idea of what extra capacity the redoubling of the track with single leads would provide and cost savings compared to double leads etc?

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I agree Nick- and I'd even go as far as saying the Thingley Junction chord should be reinstated too, allowing direct trains from Melksham to Bath/Bristol should this ever happen and also an extra alternative route from Bath/Bristol to London should the line from Swindon to Reading be closed. And I know it's an extra cost, but doubling the entire track would cut congestion at the junctions and allow for extra freight capacity, leading to a long-term investment.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/3689
Written by James on Saturday, 3rd February 2007

Dobule track would actually be quite good, for when you have HST diversions, would save a lot of pathing trouble & you could actually run the stoppers with it, I remember everytime high speed wanted the line, the stoppers would go, but of course there is only 2 each way to get rid off now!

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/4162
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Sunday, 4th March 2007

James, watch this space ... we're gonna get the stoppers back

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/4721
Written by Lee on Tuesday, 10th April 2007

[quote author=Graham Ellis link=topic=1274.msg3621#msg3621 date=1170261333]My sources is two "removed" but usually fairly good but I have no idea of any time scales, whether it's a feasabillity study, an option in a plan, or much more.

Re: Redouble Thingley to Bradford? - 1274/4724
Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Tuesday, 10th April 2007

[quote author=Lee link=topic=1274.msg4721#msg4721 date=1176202204]

Are you sure that your source is reliable , Graham?
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"Usually fairly good" I think I said  ;)  ... not excellent so it may be a red herring or it may have 'missed the cut'

 
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Save the Train was the campaign to bring an approriate train service back to and through Melksham.

Most big contributors are still around writing at the Coffee shop forum where new members are very welcome.

The train has been saved - sort of - we have stepped back up from an unusable service to a poorish one but it's doing very well. We did that through setting up the TransWilts Community Rail Partnership. That fulfilled its early objectives; it has been taken over by local and regional government types who are now doing medium and long term work. The team from this forun can also be found at the Melksham Rail User Group (which was the Melksham Rail Development Group at the time these articles were written and we had no users.

We mustn't loose sight, though, that the train service remains poor and needs our community support in marketing and campaigning to keep it going in a positive direction ... and all the more so when we're expecting to find a different normallity once we get out of the Coronavirus Pandemic and head for zero carbon via the climate crisis. Yes, it's saved ... it's now a key community facility ... the need for enhancement and the strong and near-universal local support remain, and the rail industry and goverment remain slow to move and provide the enhancements even to level us up with other towns. Please support the Melksham Rail User Group - now very much in partnership rather than protest with the rail industry and local government, including GWR, TransWilts and unitary and town councils. And please use the trains and buses, and cycle and walk when you can.

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