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Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3240 Written by Lee on Friday, 19th January 2007
From yesterdays parliamentary debate (link below.) http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmhansrd/cm070118/debtext/70118-0020.htm#07011844000002
Mrs. May: We can tell First Great Western that the Minister is shaking his head and that when it tells us that the Government are being prescriptive, that is not the case and it can widely vary the timetable. However, First Great Western needs the agreement of the Government and Network Rail to vary that timetable.
Mr. Harris: I am delighted to have an opportunity to place on the record that the service level commitments contained in franchises are minimum levels of specification. Train operating companies have every right, and are encouraged, to add to that minimum level of service. There is some discontent and a lot of misinformation being circulated in the south-west of the country and the Bristol area. That is not an area that affects her constituency, but it is still the First Great Western franchise. That misinformation has accused the Government of ordering First Great Western to remove carriages from trains. We have been accused of forbidding First Great Western to increase the length of trains. That is nonsense. I am happy to put on the record that the minimum service level commitment is a minimum level. Train operating companies should add value to those levels.
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3241 Written by Lee on Friday, 19th January 2007
Here is a related article. http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/01/farce_track_rail_service.html#more
Quote from SLC2 :
"3.4 Unless discretion is given in the wording of this Service Level Commitment, the Franchisee must not increase or decrease the number of services nor decrease or cut short the stopping pattern of the services specified. Where discretion is allowed this will normally be shown by using
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3242 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Friday, 19th January 2007
Lee ... from that article:
"FGW spokesman Adrian Ruck said the company is meeting all its performance targets so far. If it continues to do so, the franchise could be extended for a further three years."
Is Mr Ruck in a different world to us, or is there really an absence of effective targets to monitor the current appalling situation?
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3321 Written by ESP on Monday, 22nd January 2007
[quote author=Graham Ellis link=topic=1131.msg3242#msg3242 date=1169216291] Lee ... from that article:
"FGW spokesman Adrian Ruck said the company is meeting all its performance targets so far. If it continues to do so, the franchise could be extended for a further three years."
Is Mr Ruck in a different world to us, or is there really an absence of effective targets to monitor the current appalling situation?
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3322 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Monday, 22nd January 2007
Dear Mr Ruck,
You are quoted as follows in the press:
""FGW spokesman Adrian Ruck said the company is meeting all its performance targets so far.""
http://www.maidenhead-advertiser.co.uk/news_article.php?section=5&category=89&story=2656 http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/01/farce_track_rail_service.html
I wonder if you can help me understand how this applies to the line I use. On the Swindon to Westbury service we are very used to frequent cancellations and in the last week more than one half of the trains scheduled to run have been cancelled.
QUESTION ONE. What is your performance target for this line, and what figures do you have that show you are meeting it?
QUESTION TWO. Do you consider your current performance on this service to be adequate irrespective of targets?
I have a copy of the SLC2 document dated last summer that shows a requirement to schedule a train to arrive into Swindon from Westbury between 08:00 and 08:30, but no such service is shown on your schedule
QUESTION THREE. Can you explain why you are not providing a service within this designated time slot - has the performance requirement been relaxed, for example. If so why, by whom, and with what consultation with customers on the service in question?
Customers travelling from West Wiltshire to Swindon are very unhappy with the current schedule, and its appalling (in our opinion) reliability record. We would much appreciate your feedback as an official FGW spokesman on the above questions, for publication on the web site at http://www.savethetrain.org.uk - perhaps there's a problem with the targets, or perhaps you have been misquoted? Whichever, it would be great to have that answered and to move on to working for a service that meet the needs of the customers, which the current one does not.
Many thanks
Graham Ellis
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3323 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Monday, 22nd January 2007
Hello
The original quote, as given, was a bit more detailed than as appears but refers to PPM (Public Performance Measure) figures on punctuality and reliability.
Regards
Adrian Ruck External Relations Manager First Great Western
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3324 Written by admin (Graham Ellis) on Monday, 22nd January 2007
Mr Ruck has not answered my questions, or is there an answer hidden in there somewhere?
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3329 Written by sennencoveuk on Monday, 22nd January 2007
See pages 5 and 6 of this linked .PDF for another opinion on the MP's comments: [url]http://www.bdixon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/trains/MTLS-2007-01.pdf[/url]
Re: Harris Accuses South West / Bristol Campaigners Of "Misinformation" - 1131/3512 Written by Lee on Friday, 26th January 2007
More on the debate in the link below. http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/2007/01/questions_in_house_over_trains.html#more
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